Archive for July, 2008

July 31, Interpretation of Louie and The School Bus Video Clips

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Photo 1:  The bus is coming, both dogs are excited/aroused

Photo 2:  The bus is almost their, Louie is almost at the peak of his barrier frustration/aggression

Photo 3:  The bus is there!  Bianca redirects her aggression to Louie since she can’t bite the bus, Louie, in turn, breaks off his threats toward the bus and threatens Bianca, but only briefly, he is much more intent on the bus.

Background Information:

 

Louie is a 4 year old Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyrenees cross, although we think he is mostly, if not all, Anatolian.  He was rescued from a farm in Arkansas.  In his first rescue placement he got into serious fights with a resident, adult female Mastiff.  That family also had a toddler, so having two squabbling giant breed dogs was not a safe option.  He traveled north to Vermont, and was adopted by his next foster family when he was 7 months old.  He has had lots of socialization exposure to neutral dogs, and now lives peacefully in a home with two Great Pyrenees, and an Aussie/Toller? Female.

 

 

Bianca, the butt biting Great Pyrenees, is now approximately 3 years old.  She was rescued after being found wandering in the company of two other adult Great Pyrenees, one of whom was an in tact male, presumably the father of the litter she was carrying when she was picked up. 

 

Lear, now 2 years old, is Bianca’s son, from the litter she was carrying when rescued.  He and Bianca are presumed to be pure Great Pyrenees.

 

All three dogs are Live Stock Guardian dogs, historically bred to live among the flocks and protect the stock and the property.

 

Louie is aroused by all diesel engine vehicles, buses, dump trucks, UPS truck, oil delivery trucks, etc.  He does not discriminate, and it has nothing what-so-ever to do with what the bus is carrying, there is no history with positive or negative events occurring relative to the trucks passing.  When off his home territory, he alerts to passing trucks and buses, tracks them, and displays signs of stress such as heavy panting and excessive drooling, but does not lunge and bark at them.  His home territory includes about a one-mile radius around his actual home property, making walking him in his rural neighborhood a challenge, if diesel vehicles pass.

 

Bianca is also aroused by the trucks, whether this is learned behavior from watching Louie, arousal contagion, or her own innate reaction to the passing trucks, is hard to discern.  If Louie is not present in the pen she will bark when the vehicles pass, but does not try to attack them through the fence as Louie would like to do.

 

It is interesting to note, that the dogs do not alert to or bark at passing cars, other than to bark in a friendly greeting manner if one turns into their driveway.

 

Interpretation of the behavior in the video clips:

 

I loved the comment of the person who wrote about Bianca’s butt biting “if you can’t bite the one you want, bite the one you have”.

 

Here are the various explanations for the behaviors you can see in the video:

1)    Both Louie and Bianca are displaying barrier frustration/aggression

2)    They feed of each other’s arousal.

3)    Bianca redirects her frustration toward Louie by biting his tail and butt.

4)    Louie, annoyed at the interruption of his display at the bus, and frustrated by not being able to get to the bus, very briefly redirects his frustration aggression toward Bianca. 

5)    The aggressive interactions between the two dogs is accurately called redirected aggression, NOT displacement, as some people have called it.

6)    For all his ferocity there are aspects of Louie’s behavior that are playful.  Keep in mind, that play is often a rehearsal for real fight or flight situations, so that fact that he appears to be playing (note waving tail, looking over his shoulder toward his person, some curving body lines) does not negate the fact that his behavior toward the buses and trucks is aggressive, and more importantly, problematic for his people, especially if he happens to be on leash at the time one of the vehicles passes.

7)    Some one asked if Louie has ever actually attacked a bus or truck: the answer is “yes”.

A tenant, who lived in an apartment on Louie’s home territory drove a diesel engine pick up truck.  Louie was in his pen when the man drove up the road and into his driveway.  Louie did his usual aggressive display when the truck arrived.  A bit later, when Louie was being led out of his pen to the house, he had to pass the truck.  He actually bit the truck’s fender!  He was not playing.

 

A Note About Barrier Frustration/Aggression:

 

While some of Louie’s behavior toward the diesel engine vehicles appears play-based, even ritualized, it needs to be remembered that this is not innocent fun.  Barrier frustration/aggression can escalate quickly, as can the tension between multiple dogs who are participating – becoming redirected aggression that could tip over into a real fight, or find a more vulnerable target such as a small dog, or child who happened to be with the dogs when the vehicles passed.

 

The more the behavior is practiced the more aroused the dogs become, with a cumulative effect over time.  They do not get bored of the daily (sometimes multiple daily events) and if on leash, or should the fence break the dogs could be killed by the passing vehicle they are trying to run off their property.

 

Louie is not aggressive toward people or other dogs.  His intense barrier frustration/ aggression appears to be directly connected to the innate FAP (fixed action patterns) of Live Stock Guardian Dogs who have been bred for centuries to protect flocks on their own territory.  The fact that he has focused all that energy on the appearing and disappearing diesel engine vehicles is somewhat aberrant but understandable.  They make big noise, smell different from other vehicles, probably set off a different sort of vibration patterns, etc. 

 

The fact that Louie can be seen offering appeasement and stress signals (lip smacking, lip licking, shake offs, etc) after the buses pass – suggests that he is still experiencing stress after the bus passes, and that it takes time for him to come down from his state of arousal.

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July 29, Video for Interpretation: Louie On-Lead School Bus Passing

July 29, Video Clip. Click here to see the video

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How would you interpret Louie’s behavior? Is it acceptable? What would you suggest changing?

Keep in mind when viewing the videos of Louie and the school bus that he is an Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyranees. Both breeds are live stock guardian dogs. His breed plays a strong role in his behavior. Louis has the same response to all diesel engine vehicles.

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July 29, Video Clip: Louie Alone with the School Bus

July 29, Video Clip. Click here to see the video

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Keep in mind when viewing the videos of Louie and the school bus that he is an Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyranees.  Both breeds are live stock guardian dogs.  His breed plays a strong role in his behavior.  Louis has the same response to all diesel engine vehicles.

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July 27, Video Clip for Interpretation

July 27, Video Clip. Click here to see the video

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Please add your comments about this video clip. What do you think is going on?
Keep in mind when viewing the videos of Louie and the school bus that he is an Anatolian Shepherd/Great Pyranees. Both breeds are live stock guardian dogs. His breed plays a strong role in his behavior. Louis has the same response to all diesel engine vehicles.

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July 23, Interpretation of the photo: Two Labs

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

© Marco De Kloet

Pepper, the Lab running away can be a real pain. He teases and bullies other dogs for attention (especially neutered dogs that smell nice to an intact male). Boris is the black, mixed breed. Boris does not like Pepper and has to snarl Pepper away every 3 minutes or so. If Boris is not around, Pepper walks off to find another dog to bully. Pepper doesn’t respond to his name when he is bugging other dogs.

 

Pepper, the dog being chased.

 

  1. Long commissure
  2. Relaxed lips
  3. Rocking horse style gait typical of locomotory play
  4. Tail relaxed level with topline
  5. Head turn possibly a distance decreasing signal

 

Boris, the dog chasing Pepper

 

  1. Agonistic pucker
  2. Long commissure
  3. Direct stare
  4. Tail held high suggests arousal
  5. Body angled directly toward the dog he is chasing  

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July 22, Interpretation of Photo: Andor and the Great Dane

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

© Marco De Kloet

Marco, the photographer, and “dog walker” who works with all these great dogs, described this interaction to me. To paraphrase Marco: Andor is always full of energy, but his own fear and anxiety takes him out of control too much and makes him an easy target for the other dogs as well. Taran is a very gentle player, but with his amount of loose skin and movement you can’t easily tell his expressions. His face goes all over the place.

In what appears to have been a play interaction, Andor is displaying fear aggression, while Taran does a hip slam and foreleg stab in Andor’s direction. Taran appears to still be playing, but Andor looks like he has had more than enough, and wants out of the interaction. Everything he is saying with his body indicates that he wants to increase the distance between Taran and himself.

Andor (GSD on the left): Fear Aggressive, Distance Increasing Displays

1. Wrinkles between his eyes (part of the hard stare, distance increasing display)
2. Hard stare directed toward Taran
3. Wrinkles above the nose plane, part of agonistic pucker
4. Piloerector reflex (hackles raised)
5. Short Commissure as part of agonistic pucker with front teeth and fangs displayed
6. Back rounded
7. Hind end is crouched, all his weight is focused backwards
8. Stiff foreleg
9. Tail tucked so far it is wrapped underneath him
10. Defensive paw lift, also a distance increasing display

Taran (Great Dane on right): Still in play mode

11. Foreleg stab
12. Lots of facial wrinkles, but it is hard to assign meaning to them because he has so much excess skin in his flews and loose skin on his head.
13. Whale eye occurs as he tries to keep an eye on Andor whose movement has stopped behind Taran’s line of vision.
14. Hip slam

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July 21, Interpretation: Two Terriers Face to Face

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

© Marco De Kloet

 

 

This is a very tense interaction that appears to have been caught by the camera during the instant when the dogs froze. Freezes occur during the moment when dogs decide whether to fight, flee, or play. Freezes may last for several seconds or happen during the blink of an eye or the camera’s shutter. Usually during a freeze one or both dogs closes his mouth, as is the case with the dog on the right. The whale eye of the dog on the right is exaggerated because he has turned his neck and face away from the dog on the left. He has to strain his eyes to keep the other dog in his line of sight. The head turn is a distance increasing signal and appears in contrast to the dog on the left’s straight on approach.

If I were near these dogs, I would probably interrupt them, their levels of tension are high.

Dog on the left:
1. Ears angled back, sign of tension
2. Whiskers flared
3. Head angled upward
4. Lips retracted displaying teeth
5. Tongue retracted suggests a bite is imminent
6. Whiskers flared
7. Tense lip
8. Commissure is long
9. Body directly facing the other dog

Dog on the right:
10. Whiskers flared including eye brows
11. Exaggerated whale eye
12. Ears pressed back pressed against side of head
13. Facial tension ridge
14. Mouth almost closed
15. Head angled away from other dog
16. Short Commissure
17. Neck turned away
18. Shoulders angled away

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July 21, Interpretation of Two Terriers Jaw Sparring

© Marco De Kloet

These two terriers are engaged in ritualized aggression, in the context of what looks to be a play session with some serious overtones. They appear to be jaw sparring, standing on their hind legs, clasping each other with their forelegs. They are making as direct eye-contact as their height differences allow. Both dogs are positioned off-center in relation to the other, which is suggestive of play, and would facilitate a quick “get-away” if either wishes to initiate a round of play-chase. Jaw sparring in this instance is a metasignal with which the dogs each convey lack of intention to do harm. Their mouths are open wide with long commissures. Because the dog on the left has a smooth coat, his facial characteristics are easier to read. The tension in his face can be seen in the raised ridges (3, 4). There are lots of curving lines in the bodies of these two dogs, suggesting a lack of overall tension and the likelihood that play will continue.

Dog on the Left
1. Slight whale eye
2. Tense lips
3. Tension ridges
4. Tension ridges
5. Commissure is long
6. Body angled away from other dog
7. Clasp with foreleg

Dog on the Right
8. Tense lips
9. Commissure is a bit shorter than her playmate’s
10. Clasping with foreleg
11. Body angled away from the other dog
12. Tail raised is a sign of arousal which can happen during play or aggression

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July 13, 2008 New Photo Challenge

Hello Everyone,

I apologize for the long break in BLOG activity in the past month. Some surgery in June and the unexpectedly long recovery time have kept me away from the computer.

To make up for lost time, I thought I would post a different sort of challenge today, and see what kind of interest and comments come from it. I am posting a group of photos, all taken by the supremely talented Marco de Kloet, in Holland. Here’s the challenge:

1. Do you think any of these canine play interactions might tip over into a fight?
2. If so what indicators do you see that aggressive arousal is brewing?
3. What behavioral or postural indicators do you see that say “all is well” this is just play, and will remain play?
How can you tell?
4. If you were witnessing any of these interactions, might you interrupt them, separate the dogs, give them a time out, or some self-control exercises to do?
What would you do and why?

All Photos ©Marco De Kloet

Photo #1 Two Terriers Sparring
Photo #2 Two Terriers Face Off
Photo #3 German Shepherd and Great Dane
Photo #4 Two Labs Playing?
Photo #5 Snarling Lab in Pursuit
Photo #6 Three Dogs Interacting, is this play?
Photo #7 Neck Grab
Photo #8 Lab and Great Dane (1)
Photo #9 Lab and Great Dane (2)
Photo #10 Wicked and Andor the German Shepherd

Two Terriers Sparring

Two Terrier Face Off

German Sheperd and Great Dane Playing?

Two Labs Playing?

Snarling Lab in Pursuit

Three Dogs in One Moment


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